In this episode of Technically Creative, Orlando Wood sits down with Dan Jasnow, who leads IP and legal at ElevenLabs, to explore one of the most important and least understood parts of the AI conversation: what happens when voice becomes infrastructure.
Dan explains what it feels like to join one of the fastest-growing AI companies in the world, and why ElevenLabs has carved out such a distinct position in the market. From conversational agents and real-time voice interaction to enterprise partnerships with major global companies, the conversation looks at how voice AI is quickly becoming a foundational layer of how people will interact with technology.
They also go deep on rights, regulation, and trust. Orlando and Dan discuss why so many fears around AI come from misunderstanding how these systems are built and governed, what responsible consent and compensation can actually look like in practice, and why the future of AI depends on getting those legal and ethical frameworks right. It is a conversation about control, creativity, and the difference between building fast and building responsibly.
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Orlando and Dan explore
- Why ElevenLabs occupies such a unique position in the AI landscape
- How voice is becoming the natural interface for AI and connected devices
- What consent, compensation, and control look like for voice rights holders
- Why regulation is struggling to keep up with the pace of innovation
- How AI can expand access to creative work through translation, audio, and scale
Chapter markers
- [00:00] Meet Dan Jasnow
- [03:09] What makes ElevenLabs unique in the AI voice space
- [10:31] From outside counsel to in-house at ElevenLabs
- [14:13] What people still misunderstand about AI, rights, and control
- [18:42] Consent, compensation, and the voice marketplace model
- [28:42] Where misunderstanding about AI does the most damage
- [32:30] Regulation, legal uncertainty, and whether anyone can keep up
- [35:23] Trust, self-regulation, and why responsibility matters commercially
- [41:13] Copyright, fair use, and the future of AI policy
- [46:51] Why voice may become the primary interface for technology
- [49:45] Conversational agents, real-time interaction, and what comes next
- [59:47] What Dan is most excited about in the future of AI and rights
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